#614 - Who Swims in Zeichnenian Under the Sea
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#614 - Who Swims in Zeichnenian Under the Sea
10/23/2019

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Y’all I’m tired. I don’t even have any commentary for this one. Any lurkers here? Never commented before? Say hey! Comments give me life, and knowing my web statistics are real people and not robot crawlers also give me life!

A lot of things give me life. Specifically, air. Also, tacos.

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10.23.2019, 12:10 AM
Refugnic
Refugnic (Guest)
Reka, dear, I think the word you were actually looking for is a different one...although it also starts with 'c'...and I guess it's...wiser to not call the 'mage who is one with the world' 'creepy' to their face.

Furthermore: 'Every technology that is sufficiently advanced, can not be told apart from magic.'

Or what do you think the people of the middle ages would have said, if King Arthur had rolled up to their castles in a tank?

At first they might have laughed at the contraption...until the first shot gets fired.
Then they would've surrendered pretty quickly.
10.23.2019, 12:21 AM
DoomDragon6
I dunno, I feel like a tank is more "armored fire-breathing horse" than magic, but like. A smartphone would be magic!

There's a fine line somewhere in there. Honestly? Magnets are magic. Who the hell knows how those things work.
10.23.2019, 12:24 AM
DoomDragon6
Also, fun story: As soon as this page posted, I read it and decided the dialogue felt clunky, so I edited it. In the 5 minutes it took me to re-edit the page and re-post it, you commented. So congratulations! You got to see a rare error print comic page! Can YOU spot the differences!?
10.23.2019, 5:56 AM
Refugnic
Refugnic (Guest)
Of course I did not take a screenshot of the first page, but let's see what my memory can do.

I think you changed Reka's first sentence around. I don't know the exact wording any more, but it seems different.

I also think it was 'Technicians', not 'Engineers'.

Tuna's sentence about 'raw energy soaking' into her also feels a bit different.

Also you have an extra period after 'being' (y'know, while I'm being picky :P)

I also believe you only had one 'through' in the 'essence flowing through me'... sentence, the first one...or maybe that's just how I would've written it :D

Now, feel free to tell me how wrong I've been. :D
10.23.2019, 12:23 AM
makogun2000
that line (the sufficiently advanced tech one), while pithy and a good sound bite, always seemed to favor being catchy versus being accurate. In order to properly articulate the concept, the "sufficiently advanced-ness" needs to be compared to the observer's understanding of the natural world and what is possible with the application of science, if they cannot reconcile their idea of technology with the level displayed, then it is indistinguishable from magic. Further, if we assume a fantasy setting with actual magic, then there may be some ability for magic to further science, and vice-versa. (depending on the setting and how magic interacts with tech within it or even if it holds up to scientific testing.)
10.23.2019, 1:10 AM
Retnuhytnuob
There's a corollary that goes something like: "Any sufficiently analysed/applied magic is indistinguishable from technology/science."

In those cases... there can be interesting perspectives on where to draw the line between the natural and supernatural. - We even have opportunities for this in our world.
10.23.2019, 6:06 AM
Refugnic
Refugnic (Guest)
You are, of course, correct.

This sentence only applies if the person observing the 'magic' has no means whatsoever to understand what's going on, let alone reproduce it, because their level of science and available tools for science do not permit 'understanding'.

An example:
Imagine someone snapping with their fingers and their clothes suddenly turn into an impenetrable armor or anything else they want.

Magic, right?

In the middle ages, it would well be perceived as magic, whereas in tomorrows time, it would be perceived as 'perfectly normal'.

My idea would be my personal favorite all-purpose future tech: Nanites.

In the middle ages, they did not have tools like electro-microscopes (or even just regular microscopes or telescopes, which only started to come around in the 17th century), which is why they were unable to 'see' the tiny machines essentially weaving the fabric 'on the go'.

And you know what they say: 'Videre est credere' => Seeing is believing.

And even if the person explained how it worked, the very thought of building machines this small might well have been so mind boggling to the people of the time, that they'd rather have continued to believe in 'magic'...oh and burnt the poor sap at the stake for witchcraft.

That might've happened too.
10.23.2019, 8:07 PM
Andara
Andara (Guest)
Regarding the middle ages, some simple types of medicine were considered magic.

Back then, proto-pharmacists were often refered to as "hedge witches."
10.23.2019, 10:39 AM
Everfreefire
Everfreefire (Guest)
I...I feel like this is important information in regards to things we've learned in the past, but I cannot for the life of me figure out why.

Also, does it make an Achilles' Heel effect, where there are spots that aren't affected properly? Reverse magic water tattoo?
10.23.2019, 10:51 AM
Ian the Great
Why is everybody talking about tech and magic when clearly this is about how much Reka wants to bang the technomage?
10.23.2019, 11:27 AM
DoomDragon6
10.24.2019, 7:40 AM
Stupid e-boy
Stupid e-boy (Guest)
I’m pretty sure the use of magic and tech were used to represent Reka and Tuna. With tuna getting all suggestive about the tech and magic’s relationship being strong and stuff
10.24.2019, 9:42 AM
DoomDragon6
10.23.2019, 12:42 PM
Wakeangel2001
Wakeangel2001 (Guest)
I see her biting her lip in that second to last panel, we definitely have a reverse Ruto situation going on here...
10.23.2019, 3:12 PM
Metro
I swear that I am neither an air taco nor a robo crawler.

Beep. Boop.
10.23.2019, 3:29 PM
Lurker
Lurker (Guest)
Lurk lurk lurk!

Just kidding. Got linked to your comic through a Youtube video. Didn't read the original, but your revival is pretty good! Just got to the end of your archives today.

...I wonder if some of those side quests they skipped would have had them rescue their marooned party members. Does that mean they're going to be stuck there until the party gets another plot device vehicle?!
10.23.2019, 3:50 PM
DoomDragon6
Hey, glad you enjoyed! Did you happen to read the original stuff too? 😁
10.23.2019, 7:03 PM
Lurker
Lurker (Guest)
I have not. Talk about starting on disc 2!
Just got the link from your first page and I'm giving it a go. About five pages in so far.
10.23.2019, 4:53 PM
Hobo With an Oboe
Hobo With an Oboe (Guest)
Uh-oh, a convenient plot device!
10.23.2019, 11:06 PM
Lurker
Lurker (Guest)
Lurker checking in. Fantastic work, I look forward to every update
10.23.2019, 11:53 PM
DoomDragon6
10.24.2019, 12:29 AM
Stupid e-boy
Stupid e-boy (Guest)
First time commenting. Just wanted to say, I LOVE the whole thing! This strip, the revival, the original, all of it! (Wouldn’t mind a Reka x Tuna ship. What would that be? Teka?)
10.24.2019, 7:23 AM
DoomDragon6
Ayyy, thanks! Glad to hear there's more people out there enjoying 😁
10.24.2019, 10:19 AM
Ian the Great
It's called "I put the screw in the Tuna!"
Kenan and Kel reference for you all.
10.24.2019, 4:27 AM
Blue_Elite
Blue_Elite (Guest)
I'd be tired too if I did as much shipping as you did this page. :P
10.24.2019, 7:19 PM
iamzid
iamzid (Guest)
I'm read this comic and i'm a real person. i am a carry over from the original series. one day i saw an ad flash by on some other web comic i read and i actually did a double take that it actually said "rpg world". now here i am.
10.24.2019, 7:43 PM
DoomDragon6
That's awesome! I really need to get those ads going again.
10.29.2019, 11:02 AM
Mackle
Mackle (Guest)
Lurker here. You guys took a comic I adored when I was young and somehow made it better. The writing, the jokes, the nostalgic (and occasionally modern) gaming satire, the art, everything about this is such an evolution it makes this much more than just an extension of the original. And unlike Ian, who really made some of his latter entries feel like a chore rather than a joy, its so obvious that you care and love this universe and these characters; it's apparent ever strip, every panel, every week.

And (if that's not enough) what's even MORE impressive is that you've managed to recapture that magic but somehow made it your own too. I said last week this was the Link's Awakening of revivals, but that's not quite right; its certainly faithful and wonderfully reimagined but it's more than just a remake. This is the Breath of the Wild of revivals. At least or me, and I don't make that comparison lightly.

I'm hoping to secure my finances soon and when I do, I'm without a doubt going to be a big donator around here. It's the very least I can do. Until then, all I can say is thank you so much. What you guys are doing is certainly entertaining but it's more meaningful than that too, I promise. Thank you for taking the time to do it. Really :)
10.29.2019, 1:19 PM
DoomDragon6
😭😭😭 Thank you so much. I'm happy we can make something people really enjoy, and hope we can continue for a good while!
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